SDVFP Podcast Episode 1 – John Horgan, Author of The End of War

Episode length: 43:35

John Horgan, Author, The End of War
Barry Ladendorf, President, San Diego Veterans for Peace

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In the first episode of the San Diego Veterans for Peace Podcast, SDVFP President Barry Ladendorf and author John Horgan discuss John’s most recent book The End of War.

John is a science journalist and Director of the Center for Science Writings at Stevens Institute of Technology in Hoboken, New Jersey. He is a former senior writer at Scientific American. He has also written for The New York Times, Newsweek, The Washington Post, and The Los Angeles Times among many other world-wide publications.

John Horgan’s Website

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Intro/Outro Music Credit: 6 a.m taxi (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 3.0

Patrick Gokey

Patrick Gokey is a veteran of the United States Navy and a lifetime member of Veterans For Peace. He owns and operates Pete's Hamburger Catering in Madison, Wisconsin.



Generally, I am impressed with the first attempt of the SDVFP in creating the podcast and would like to offer a few comments which might benefit the podcast production in the future. From the technical side it is needed to minimize the contribution of distracting undesired sounds such as sniffling, breathing and coughing of the listening party. Perhaps, the listening party can try keeping the microphone away (or turning down the volume) while the other party is talking to minimize the disturbance.

I think that Barry did a very good job leading the discussion; however I wish that he had asked John to provide a synopsis of the book right after learning about author’s motivations for writing it. Without reading the book, I gained the impression that its main thesis is as follows: the tendency toward waging war is an artifact of human civilization in its current state of development but not an innate and unavoidable attribute of human nature or the laws of socio-economic dynamics by which we are all destined to abide. From there, as I understand, the author makes the conjecture that collectively civilization can lift itself above the state where war is an accepted tool of conflict resolution and gives some prescriptions. Frankly, I always believed in this, naively during my adolescence, and again later, when I recognized the “end of war” as the primary goal of humanistic civilization. Apparently, as the author emphasized, few are so naively romantic, or pragmatically optimistic in the success of humanity, and so the study conducted by the author has merit in shaking off the pessimism toward the possibility a world without war.

I am looking forward to part 2.

Barry Ladendorf

Sergey I believe your comments are appropriate. Having read the book, I think your understanding of the book based on your listening to the podcast are completely accurate. Which leads me to believe we accomplished our mission of having the author explain the thesis of his book via the podcast. Thanks for your comments.


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